HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion 2: The Gathering Storm
World War II and the Holocaust (graded)
The following statement was taken from a contemporary account of Germany in 1939: "Though the Fuhrer's
anti-Semitic program furnished the National Socialist party in the first instances with a nucleus and a
rallying-cry, it was swept into office by two things with which the "Jewish Problem" did not have the
slightest connection. On the one side was economic distress and the revulsion against Versailles: on the
other, chicanery and intrigue...Hitler and his party promised the unhappy Germans a new heaven and a new
earth, coupled with the persecution of the Jews. Unfortunately a new heaven and earth cannot be
manufactured to order. But a persecution of the Jews can..." How do you interpret this contemporary
account of the persecution of people who are Jewish? Elaborate.
Responses
Response
The Roots of Genocide
Class,
I want to take time to consider what genocide is, what are some historical examples of genocide that
inspired Hitler and general process of genocide. What are the stages of ge Hitler? Why does genocide
happen?
RE: The Roots of Genocide Kang
Professor,
Genocide is the extermination of an entire people of a particular nation or ethnic group.
One historical example of genocide that inspired Hitler and his genocide is the Turkish massacre of its
Armenian population
in 1915. The Armenian Genocide occurred 1915-1917 when "the leaders of the Turkish government
expelled and massacred Armenians living in the Ottom
stages of genocide: classification, symbolization, dehumanization, organization, polarization,
preparation, extermination, and denial. Genocides occur beca their nation. Another reason genocide
may happen is because a nation may stand in the way of the economic progress of another nation, so
they "get rid"
Armenian Genocide (2010). retrieved from http://www.history.com/topics/armenian-genocide
RE: The Roots of Genocide Jones
The Armenian genocide is a controversial one, even to this day. Why? What does this tell us
about why genocide happens?
RE: The Roots of Genocide Michele S
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,HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
Vil
According to Brower and Sanders Genocide is define as the extermination of an entire
people (chap 6). the Armenian genocide is still controversial b happen and the world
leaders (the United Nations) does not want to offend an allied. One of the reason
genocides happen is because the world turns these crimes knows they can get away with
it.
References
Brower, Daniel R., Sanders, T. (07/2013). The World in the Twentieth Century, 7th
Edition. [VitalSource Bookshelf Online]. Retrieved from
https://devry.vitalsource.com/#/books/9781323183472/
RE: The Roots of Genocide Professor
Jones
One wonders if genocide can ever be stopped if we cannot get to the point where we
admit it happened. Hmmm...
RE: The Roots of Genocide Nnenna
Brown
Professor,
The way I understand the Armenian genocide is a form of control by way of elimination of
a particular people in order to take full control over them.I or executed.No options were
given, the ones that were able to hide and serve were deemed fortunate. I believe
genocide occurs because a group of p want to have control over another group that they
can attempt to defeat and over power because they didn't agree with there opinions.Fear
of lost of to Armenians was another cause for them to attempt to make the extinct .Battle
between Christian Armenians and Turkish Muslims gave way to ethni wonder about our
troops in Afghanistan and Iraq on war on terror.
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,HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
RE: The Roots of Genocide Alivea
VanDyke
Many say the Armenian genocide was a result of a war and not a planned killing. Turkey
states that all the killings were in a result of a war and not d sure that the countries
would not point out the Armenian genocide or refer it to a genocide. Turkey is an ally to
us so no one really wants to refer to t have pointed it out but want to remain friends with
Turkey so it is kept hush hush. Genocide happens because people can get away with it.
No conseq equal. Turkey got away with their doings.
RE: The Roots of Genocide Professor
Jones
There is a significant co-mingling of the practice of war and genocide. That said the
latter specifically targets non-combatants. And people
RE: The Roots of Genocide Alivea
VanDyke
Genocide is the killing of a wide amount of people. This usually includes a group of specific ethnic
groups, race, or sexs. The stages of genocide include: classification, s polarization, preparation,
extermination, and denial. The Armenian Genocide inspired Hitler. Genocides happen when victims
are excluded, crisis or an open opportunity nothing. Genocide happens when everything comes into
place and things don't go as planned.
KeyText: Why Do Genocides Occur? (n.d.). Retrieved May 17, 2016, from
https://clg.portalxm.com/library/keytext.cfm?keytext_id=168 (n.d.). Retrieved
May 17, 2016, from
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html
RE: The Roots of Genocide Kendra
Cardoza
Alivea,
For hitters case, he was a dictator and was able to have the opportunity to exclude Jews
and others by being so persuasive and a good speaker. What do you mean by,
"genocide happens when everything comes into place and things don't go as planned"?
I think Hitlers plan did fall into place and go as he planned.
Tha
nks,
Ken
dra
RE: The Roots of Genocide Amanda
Poppen
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, HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
Greetings Professor Jones and classmates,
Our text refers to genocide as “the extermination of an entire people” (Brower & Sanders, 2013, p. 168). A description of
genocide, according to Stanton, “is a are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The
process is not linear. Stages may occur simultaneously. Logically, later s But all stages continue to operate throughout the
process” (Stanton, 2013). Excerpts of the stages of genocide are as follows:
1. CLASSIFICATION: All cultures have categories to distinguish people into “us and them”
by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: German and Jew, Hutu and T
2. SYMBOLIZATION: We give names or other symbols to the classifications. We name people “Jews” or “Gypsies”, or
distinguish them by colors or dre groups.
3. DISCRIMINATION: A dominant group uses law, custom, and political power to deny the rights of other groups.
The powerless group may not be acc
4. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals,
vermin, insects or diseases. Dehum revulsion against murder.
5. ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of
state responsibility.
6. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may
forbid intermarriage or social interactio
7. PREPARATION: National or perpetrator group leaders plan the “Final Solution” to the Jewish, Armenian, Tutsi or
other targeted group “question.” T intentions, such as referring to their goals as “ethnic cleansing,” “purification,” or
“counter-terrorism.” They build armies, buy weapons and train their t populace with fear of the victim group.
8. PERSECUTION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are
drawn up. In state sponsored geno forced to wear identifying symbols. Their property is often expropriated.
Sometimes they are even segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration region and starved. Genocidal
massacres begin.
9. EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to
the killers because they do not bel When it is sponsored by the state, the armed forces often work with militias to do the
killing.
10. DENIAL is the final stage that lasts throughout and always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of
further genocidal massacres. The per graves, burn the bodies, try to cover up the evidence and intimidate the witnesses.
They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what hap investigations of the crimes, and continue to
govern until driven from power by force, when they flee into exile. (Stanton, 2013)
Best regards,
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HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion 2: The Gathering Storm
World War II and the Holocaust (graded)
The following statement was taken from a contemporary account of Germany in 1939: "Though the Fuhrer's
anti-Semitic program furnished the National Socialist party in the first instances with a nucleus and a
rallying-cry, it was swept into office by two things with which the "Jewish Problem" did not have the
slightest connection. On the one side was economic distress and the revulsion against Versailles: on the
other, chicanery and intrigue...Hitler and his party promised the unhappy Germans a new heaven and a new
earth, coupled with the persecution of the Jews. Unfortunately a new heaven and earth cannot be
manufactured to order. But a persecution of the Jews can..." How do you interpret this contemporary
account of the persecution of people who are Jewish? Elaborate.
Responses
Response
The Roots of Genocide
Class,
I want to take time to consider what genocide is, what are some historical examples of genocide that
inspired Hitler and general process of genocide. What are the stages of ge Hitler? Why does genocide
happen?
RE: The Roots of Genocide Kang
Professor,
Genocide is the extermination of an entire people of a particular nation or ethnic group.
One historical example of genocide that inspired Hitler and his genocide is the Turkish massacre of its
Armenian population
in 1915. The Armenian Genocide occurred 1915-1917 when "the leaders of the Turkish government
expelled and massacred Armenians living in the Ottom
stages of genocide: classification, symbolization, dehumanization, organization, polarization,
preparation, extermination, and denial. Genocides occur beca their nation. Another reason genocide
may happen is because a nation may stand in the way of the economic progress of another nation, so
they "get rid"
Armenian Genocide (2010). retrieved from http://www.history.com/topics/armenian-genocide
RE: The Roots of Genocide Jones
The Armenian genocide is a controversial one, even to this day. Why? What does this tell us
about why genocide happens?
RE: The Roots of Genocide Michele S
Page 1 of
,HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
Vil
According to Brower and Sanders Genocide is define as the extermination of an entire
people (chap 6). the Armenian genocide is still controversial b happen and the world
leaders (the United Nations) does not want to offend an allied. One of the reason
genocides happen is because the world turns these crimes knows they can get away with
it.
References
Brower, Daniel R., Sanders, T. (07/2013). The World in the Twentieth Century, 7th
Edition. [VitalSource Bookshelf Online]. Retrieved from
https://devry.vitalsource.com/#/books/9781323183472/
RE: The Roots of Genocide Professor
Jones
One wonders if genocide can ever be stopped if we cannot get to the point where we
admit it happened. Hmmm...
RE: The Roots of Genocide Nnenna
Brown
Professor,
The way I understand the Armenian genocide is a form of control by way of elimination of
a particular people in order to take full control over them.I or executed.No options were
given, the ones that were able to hide and serve were deemed fortunate. I believe
genocide occurs because a group of p want to have control over another group that they
can attempt to defeat and over power because they didn't agree with there opinions.Fear
of lost of to Armenians was another cause for them to attempt to make the extinct .Battle
between Christian Armenians and Turkish Muslims gave way to ethni wonder about our
troops in Afghanistan and Iraq on war on terror.
Page 2 of
,HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
RE: The Roots of Genocide Alivea
VanDyke
Many say the Armenian genocide was a result of a war and not a planned killing. Turkey
states that all the killings were in a result of a war and not d sure that the countries
would not point out the Armenian genocide or refer it to a genocide. Turkey is an ally to
us so no one really wants to refer to t have pointed it out but want to remain friends with
Turkey so it is kept hush hush. Genocide happens because people can get away with it.
No conseq equal. Turkey got away with their doings.
RE: The Roots of Genocide Professor
Jones
There is a significant co-mingling of the practice of war and genocide. That said the
latter specifically targets non-combatants. And people
RE: The Roots of Genocide Alivea
VanDyke
Genocide is the killing of a wide amount of people. This usually includes a group of specific ethnic
groups, race, or sexs. The stages of genocide include: classification, s polarization, preparation,
extermination, and denial. The Armenian Genocide inspired Hitler. Genocides happen when victims
are excluded, crisis or an open opportunity nothing. Genocide happens when everything comes into
place and things don't go as planned.
KeyText: Why Do Genocides Occur? (n.d.). Retrieved May 17, 2016, from
https://clg.portalxm.com/library/keytext.cfm?keytext_id=168 (n.d.). Retrieved
May 17, 2016, from
http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html
RE: The Roots of Genocide Kendra
Cardoza
Alivea,
For hitters case, he was a dictator and was able to have the opportunity to exclude Jews
and others by being so persuasive and a good speaker. What do you mean by,
"genocide happens when everything comes into place and things don't go as planned"?
I think Hitlers plan did fall into place and go as he planned.
Tha
nks,
Ken
dra
RE: The Roots of Genocide Amanda
Poppen
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, HIST 410N Week 3 Discussion
Greetings Professor Jones and classmates,
Our text refers to genocide as “the extermination of an entire people” (Brower & Sanders, 2013, p. 168). A description of
genocide, according to Stanton, “is a are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The
process is not linear. Stages may occur simultaneously. Logically, later s But all stages continue to operate throughout the
process” (Stanton, 2013). Excerpts of the stages of genocide are as follows:
1. CLASSIFICATION: All cultures have categories to distinguish people into “us and them”
by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: German and Jew, Hutu and T
2. SYMBOLIZATION: We give names or other symbols to the classifications. We name people “Jews” or “Gypsies”, or
distinguish them by colors or dre groups.
3. DISCRIMINATION: A dominant group uses law, custom, and political power to deny the rights of other groups.
The powerless group may not be acc
4. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals,
vermin, insects or diseases. Dehum revulsion against murder.
5. ORGANIZATION: Genocide is always organized, usually by the state, often using militias to provide deniability of
state responsibility.
6. POLARIZATION: Extremists drive the groups apart. Hate groups broadcast polarizing propaganda. Laws may
forbid intermarriage or social interactio
7. PREPARATION: National or perpetrator group leaders plan the “Final Solution” to the Jewish, Armenian, Tutsi or
other targeted group “question.” T intentions, such as referring to their goals as “ethnic cleansing,” “purification,” or
“counter-terrorism.” They build armies, buy weapons and train their t populace with fear of the victim group.
8. PERSECUTION: Victims are identified and separated out because of their ethnic or religious identity. Death lists are
drawn up. In state sponsored geno forced to wear identifying symbols. Their property is often expropriated.
Sometimes they are even segregated into ghettoes, deported into concentration region and starved. Genocidal
massacres begin.
9. EXTERMINATION begins, and quickly becomes the mass killing legally called “genocide.” It is “extermination” to
the killers because they do not bel When it is sponsored by the state, the armed forces often work with militias to do the
killing.
10. DENIAL is the final stage that lasts throughout and always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of
further genocidal massacres. The per graves, burn the bodies, try to cover up the evidence and intimidate the witnesses.
They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what hap investigations of the crimes, and continue to
govern until driven from power by force, when they flee into exile. (Stanton, 2013)
Best regards,
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